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Andrea Cebula
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Week1, eLearning

What is your experience and interest in eLearning? (For example, do you use it to deliver your professional development trainings? Do you help educator incorporate eLearning into their teaching practice?)


This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment? Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

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Vaqas Iqbal

Posted on 2/17/16 8:01:18 AM Permalink

I am an autodidact who learnt through internet and is now a design professional and an instructor.

stephanie dicken

Posted on 4/2/15 8:11:04 PM Permalink

I definitely use eLearning through instructional videos. These help to show exactly what, why, and how I executed a task. Students can rewatch areas of concern. I also think adult learning can benefit immenesly from eLearning,.

steve kong

Posted on 3/16/15 5:34:44 PM Permalink

My interest in elearning is based in how public schools can become models for blended learning to maximize student engagement, learning, and the teachers time to best focus on meeting the needs of individual students. Elearning provides a great opportunity to flip the public school model of learning. As a staff development specialist, I am looking into ways to model how teaching and learning can look by changing the format of PD at the district level.

I think you can meet Knowles's assumptions in an elearning course. The thing about elearning is that at the end of the day, it boils down to teaching learning. If you can meet the needs of your students, it doesn't matter how you got them to learn and elearning is a powerful tool in that regard.

Carolyn Daigre

Posted on 3/16/15 5:41:46 AM Permalink

I am currently working on a certificate for eLearning. I plan on using the certificate to teach on the university level. I would like to use the training to create multimedia materials and mobile applications for education.

It is possible to meet the needs of adult learners in an online environment. Self directed learning is easily met in Knowles eLearning environment; the student has the content and resources to engage in their learning process. The practice of lifetime of experience may be difficult to achieve in a eLearning environment. Discussion board questions would need to be posed to draw out the student's previous experiences.

Megan Deaton

Posted on 3/12/15 7:01:12 PM Permalink

I have tons of experience with e-learning. Mostly on the student side. I attended UMUC which caters to adult learners. One benefit was the amount of online classes that are available. I finished both my undergraduate and graduate level classes there. I liked it. I also found it to be a little more challenging as you have to be incredibly self motivated. You have to find the time to get to the class, kind of like this class.

I think sometimes the message can get lost with elearning. Topics can sometimes go way of base. But I also think that elearning allows people to truly showcase their life experiences.

Tanya Hopper

Posted on 3/12/15 4:09:10 PM Permalink

I am just beginning my career as an adult educator, and am passionate about teaching Digital Literacy to others. I think we need to bridge the gap for those who have had limited exposure to the Internet for whatever reason. Some because they live in a community where access is limited, some because they feel they have no need for a Smart Phone or other mobile device. I have several clients who are senior citizens and having to learn to manage their Social Security and retirement pensions online because those providers have gone to paperless systems.
I also have a passion for our teachers. I often hear from elementary teachers who are intimidated by technology and even more so when using it in the classroom because more often than not their students are more familiar and comfortable with that technology and the teacher is left feeling frustrated and unconfident in their skills. I am in the beginning process of working with our local educational coop to create micro learning sessions for our local GT teachers, exposing them to technologies that they can use in the classroom, and how they might incorporate that technology into their lesson plan.
As an adult learner who has experience both a classroom and online teaching setting, I much prefer the online modality. I like having control over my schedule, I really enjoy the live sessions and interaction with other students and the instructors. I appreciate that we have a much more diverse pool of creative ideas simply because we come from so many different cultures.

Andreas Freiberger

Posted on 3/10/15 10:03:19 AM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning?

I teach at a school for k12 and higher education (14-19years) we try to force (in some special parts) e-learning. I think it is not good to use it for the First class (the youngest ages) and for basics (First lessons with New content) or very complex and heavy topics. Because in this part there are many (sometimes) very Short and similar questions. Therefor it is better to make personal and face to face lessions, you can see if the students understand the content. I am afraid that students drop out if they are have no possibilities to get a quick response from the Trainer.

But after that elearning would be a great possibility.

For projects (make thing - video, Web, Print - on there own) is the online environment perfect. The students are able to share ideas, examples of there work and design to discuss and get feedback from different People. So they are able to see what is good (thats important to improve skills and find a way to make the "customers" happy.

Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment?

Yes, I think it is possible to meet the needs of adult learners by eLearning. Most adults are busy (Family, work, Social life), so eLearning gives them the opportunity to learn in their own possibilities. They can stop or replay the lession if there have problems. I think that is the big advantage of THIS course! People around the world share the ideas, solutions,... Great!!!

Don Hoye

Posted on 3/5/15 7:37:23 PM Permalink

I feel that eLearning could be invaluable to the rural and reservation schools out west.

With places like Lynda.com and various other outlets of eLearning available most of our students should be able to understand and work digitally.

Lynne Tilley

Posted on 3/3/15 7:22:17 PM Permalink

I have taken a lot of my classes on-line and my interest in eLearning is to be able to teach in the on-line environment. I think that all of the needs of the adult learner can be meet in the online environment. It not only is possible to present it but the online environment gives the student the flexibility that they desire to complete their learning in the way that works the best for them.

Eileen MacAvery

Posted on 3/2/15 6:43:27 PM Permalink


M McLane

Posted on 3/2/15 6:30:29 PM Permalink

B Greer asked, "What are some the challenges that professors have shared regarding blended learning?" Professors have commented that the time it takes to monitor and add to eLearning online discussions is sometimes overwhelming.

Chad Perry

Posted on 3/1/15 5:59:34 PM Permalink

Online learning could create some obstacles for utilizing Knowles' assumptions, especially when it comes to small group work -- it's just difficult to do that online. However many lessons require the learner to just get something done, and that doesn't require everyone being in a room doing interpersonal communication. I think the best approach to elearning is a hybrid situation where online lessons and discussions are incorporated with face-to-face classroom meetings.

M McLane

Posted on 3/1/15 4:20:38 PM Permalink

My experience and interest in eLearning comes from two distinct areas. I currently teach an instructional design and technology course, therefore I teach adult learners how to design instructional tutorials and training programs. The 2nd area comes from the professional development technology workshops that I've presented to public schools and at the state technology conference.

Yes, I think it's very possible to meet Knowles' six assumptions in an eLearning environment. Most of these assumptions require the trainer's knowledge of their audience - either before the training session from surveys or during the beginning of training sessions from online discussions. The latter does make it more difficult to come up with e-learning experiences relevant to the trainees unless one is exceptionally good at coming up with activities "on the fly!" I guess it depends upon adequate timing between the discussions and the start of the e-learning experience. In summary, online discussions would need to be an important part of the e-learning process that could enable the trainer to put all of Knowles' assumptions into practice.

Eileen MacAvery

Posted on 3/2/15 6:44:32 PM Permalink

I tend to agree with you - I think it's possible to meet the six assumptions, however some are harder to do on the fly,

dan aylesworth

Posted on 2/26/15 8:16:12 AM Permalink

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it’s possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment?
The need to know how to do something is one area of elearning that fits well with adults. If you look at Youtube some of the most popular videos are how to videos. In these cases, people had a specific problem and they went and searched out a solution to the specific problem. Other areas about accessing a students prior knowledge, it would be important to create a community so people can share their previous experience and have some input into their learning.

Which of Knowles’s six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

The connection between what students already know and having input into their learning and the course material for elearning could be a challenge. Adult students don't want to go through preliminary exercises if they feel it's something they already know or that it's information that is not important to them.

Eileen MacAvery

Posted on 3/2/15 6:46:13 PM Permalink

Interesting point about how online instruction allows us to control our moods; which can be difficult to disguise in an onsite environment. For example I sometimes lose patience onsite when I have to repeat the same instruction repeatedly because students are not listening - they are too busy focusing on their own task at hand.

B Greer

Posted on 2/25/15 7:13:19 PM Permalink

For the last for years in Education I have established and facilitated an on-demand asynchronous e-learning platform for all learners and distant learners. Providing web-based peer interaction and discussion board for personalized attention. Maintained course curriculum by delegating course assignments, lectures and assessments on a weekly basis. Employed statistical packaging to summarize performance assessment using authoring software. Constructed quality curriculum based on the foundation of the ADDIE model to target proficiencies and objectives.

With collaboration I have developed and facilitated campus PLC’s targeting new and innovative approaches for implementing instructional technology based on inquiry and problem-based methodologies. It can be challenging at times when working with adult learns who reluctant to reform.

JOHN CARTER III

Posted on 2/23/15 6:45:22 PM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning? (For example, do you use it to deliver your professional development trainings? Do you help educators incorporate eLearning into their teaching practices?)Presently, I’m not in a structured regularly occurring eLearning environment. I have periodic instances with my media ministry at my church where I can branch out and create some educational media and assets for our semiannual conferences, but more often than not I create a learning module, presentation or lesson on two as needed and spend most of my time learning how to do more waiting for a regular opportunity to progress to the next level.

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it’s possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment? Which of Knowles’s six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?Though most of Knowles assumptions are met in an eLearning environment self-directed and Lifetime of experience seem to be most easily met in this environment. The ownership of your development is place almost exclusively on your shoulders in an eLearning environment and those assumptions that address the more internal motivators and skill sets are more readily addressed because it puts the ball solely in you court with regard to the learning.

Relevancy-Oriented & Problem-Centered assumptions seem to be more of a challenge as the range of the learning is determined by the learner but the scope is chartered mostly by the instructor and the learning material and typically is laid out well before the learner has engaged the learning.


Renee Sarmiento

Posted on 2/23/15 3:05:13 AM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning? (For example, do you use it to deliver your professional development trainings? Do you help educator incorporate eLearning into their teaching practice?)

I have taught online in the past and I continue to use it to help colleagues incorporate digital strategies in their classroom. I have participated in several eLearning experiences as a learner as well and believe it offers extensive opportunities for professional development. I enjoy trying out new things and using technology so I want to learn more how to use it in a live classroom on a more continued fashion.

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment? Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

I think it is possible to meet the needs of adult learners in an eLearning environment. Perhaps the most difficult assumption to meet is the self-motivation strategies, both intrinsic and extrinsic. The reason I believe this is because it is not always easy to realize that change is needed and change is the essential intrinsic motivator.


Katie Morgan

Posted on 2/20/15 8:33:31 PM Permalink

Currently I use eLearning within the College VLE as an additionality to courses, but I would love to be able to create a total eLearning environment.

It is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning environment because it is perfect for them to be self directed and to be able to fit it into their busy lifestyles.

Roel Ligterink

Posted on 2/20/15 12:07:07 PM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in e-learning? (For example, you use it to make your professional development training?

We have made online tests for students to test their knowledge. Moreover, I am working in the semi public key for development where exams are created digitally and where curricula are developed.

Do you take help educators e-learning in their teaching practices?) This week the category Professional Development Design of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an e-learning or online learning environment?

Yes, I am convinced that this is the future, alone or with a mix of practical instruction, instructional videos and reference books.

Which Knowles six assumptions about how to teach adult learners is easily met in an e-learning environment?

Self-directing or problem-oriented.

Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet?

Lifetime experience.

Why So?

Because you do not know exactly whether the experience is well on the way towards the future learning object or learning goal.

Eileen MacAvery

Posted on 3/2/15 6:47:16 PM Permalink

Good point about assessing life experience, it may take further inquiry to find out what you need to know.

Tiff Shaw

Posted on 2/19/15 5:01:19 PM Permalink

I have a lot of interest in eLearning but little experience in using it to train students. I would like to be able to construct a series of eLearning courses to help disseminate instruction.

Yes it is possible to meet the needs of adult learners through eLearning. If I didn't think so, I would not be doing this course. I find Adobe does a good job of meeting these assumptions with the way these very courses are structured.

Ryan Archer

Posted on 2/18/15 10:22:24 PM Permalink

I have been working within eLearning industry in QLD Australia for over 10 years. Working for various Registered Training Organisations to develop online teaching resources for many different vocational courses. I have also used it to teach adult learners as well. In my previous job I was using Moodle LMS to teach students Interactive Digital Media online using Adobe CC tools.

I would say that I agree with Knowles assumptions. Adult learners definitely need to take an active part in their education and readily apply the skills learnt into their daily life. Cannot use the "chalk & chalkboard" approach that has been fairly institutionalised among primary and secondary schools around the world, mostly deriving from a more traditional style/model of education that I personally feel is outdated. Gotta plug another Youtube video by Ken Robinson here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U

I would definitely use the "Relevancy-Oriented" assumption in my teaching as it lets students know why they are learning the particular skill or knowledge and how they can apply it in their daily life straight away. If you don't use it, you lose it. Another would be "self directing" - adult learners will always tell you what they want to learn and can become great assets in shaping the education experience.


Marja de Klerk

Posted on 2/17/15 8:50:32 AM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning?

I teach at a school for higher education, using mainly e-learning. I would like to learn how to design an attractive interactive online environment.

Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment?

Yes, the needs of adult learners are met best by eLearning. Most adults are very busy and eLearning gives them the opportunity to learn in their own pace.

Megan Townes

Posted on 2/16/15 8:40:13 PM Permalink

Within my school, we run Sharepoint with 2 full-time web developers. This allows us to create what we call "Virtual Classrooms" for online learning. In the past, they've been a dumping ground for resources, but this year we have revitalised them in look, feel and operation, and I think they provide much better opportunities for learning with better integration of blogs, wikis, discussion forums and an assignment tool. I've actually started to build a Virtual Classroom that teaches staff about using the Virtual Classroom, attempting to model good e-learning practice through the space itself. It's been challenging and time-consuming but I think it's better than the way we have delivered learning materials digitally in the past. We have an IT Help Blog with a lot of help-guides and how-tos but I think presenting the materials in learning modules, is more relevant to staff. I'm looking forward to developing more online courses for staff, and the ultimate hope is they see good practice via my spaces, and start to develop good practice in their own online spaces.

Suzanne Arnott

Posted on 2/12/15 12:10:40 PM Permalink

I have been involved in developing eLearning access through the use of Moodle, wikis and blogs as well as other various platforms including Facebook. I have been the Moodle Admin at 2 schools and love the way it give students access to learning 24/7 with more security than the open web based platforms... students are able to learn when they learn best. I use my blog and wikis to support my teacher professional development, both at school and at a range of subject conferences.

I do think most aspects of Knowles assumptions can be met online... however, there needs to be a lot of planning and development to make the courses work. And having said that, the weekly get together is almost like adding a face to face session.. which gives another element to how courses can run well. I have participated in a few MOOCs, but usually peter out of participation when things get busy at work... this one has been far more engaging, and definitely works on the intrinsic motivation.

I am hoping to improve my ability to create better and more useful eLearning opportunities for my students. I think for adults as well as younger people.... distraction is an issue with online learning.... but if we can see this is an issue, surely we can start to suggest strategies for our students to deal with these issues.

Sandra H

Posted on 2/11/15 8:08:38 PM Permalink

I think eLearning is the wave of the future and I'm excited about using Captivate and Presenter.

eLearning can certainly include the 6 assumptions in adult learning theory through the interactions and questioning of the Instructor. The easily met assumptions to me are: 1. Need to know; can be covered in the presentation by the Instructor with activites for the Learner to express their own reason for wanting to know. 2. Self-directing; the Learner might decide what when and how they plan to learn and use their own time schedule. 3. Experience; the Learner can skip over the parts they already are familiar with and focus on new material. 4. Relevancy; of course the Learner can usually have choice in projects and decide whether they wan to go through the experience or not. 5. Its not hard to create problem-oriented activities in eLearning 6. Motivational factors; maybe this one is harder to meet in eLearning; this is something that is the choice of the Learner completely.

Benny Villarreal

Posted on 2/11/15 3:17:24 AM Permalink

my experience is very limited in elearning in instructing it..However, my Masters courses were in eLearning format and you learn alot more (research and research of information). I do try but since i work with K-12 teachers only the high school teachers are interesting in using elearning format.

Everything is possible if people puts some effort into it.

Motivation is something that some people have and some don't and that makes it difficult to meet in an elearning environment.

Ed Bonhaus

Posted on 2/10/15 2:19:32 PM Permalink

I've tried MOOCs and other forms of eLearning. A few of my Masters classes were in eLearning format. I'd like to bring elearning to my PD, but I just need the right platform to do it with. I think elearning can be powerful if it's done correctly. Utilizing Knowles' assumptions can help in that area.

James Adkins

Posted on 2/8/15 8:45:35 AM Permalink

Use eLeanring for a lot of different application and software training, along with professional development session. Currently working on implementing adobe ACA exams in our classrooms throughout the state by building and delivering eLeanring curriculum that will be accessible for all sites. By developing the right type of scenarios and using the right tools, it is very achievable to engage adult leathers via eLeanring platforms for they have made the decision to be ready to learn by dedicating in enrollment in the training. Motivating material can be difficult to build and engage a digital immigrant, but with the right tools and making the content reverent, it is possible.

Richard Wood

Posted on 2/7/15 11:23:20 PM Permalink

I have used e-learning as part of my DTTLS (teaching certificate / licence in the UK) course and very interested in what we can do for my creative learners who have a disability and access issues.

Luke Sequeira

Posted on 2/7/15 9:46:35 PM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning? (For example, do you use it to deliver your professional development trainings? Do you help educator incorporate eLearning into their teaching practice?)

I have more or less been a student of e-learning and less of a practitioner of e-learning though a friend/colleague of mine have begun learning some software that would allow us to teach audio production remotely. I do help teachers electronically in a more informal way and am looking to formalize the process.

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment?

Absolutely. The needs of adult learners are best accommodated through eLearning as most adults are so damn busy that the idea of travel across the city to a physical classroom is totally impractical if not impossible. Allowing a learner to learn in the most comfortable setting for the learner is integral.

Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment?

Readiness to learn-I would assume if you took the time to enroll in an elearning environment that one would want to be there to learn...

Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

Motivation or intrinsic/extrinsic-Often people are just learning b/c they have to and not b/c they want to in addition which can make learning more of a chore than a pleasure.


Ramon Villa

Posted on 2/6/15 6:10:41 AM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning?

I've been a student and an instructor in an eLearning environment.

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment?

Yes.

Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment?

Motivation


Jenifer Pickens

Posted on 2/5/15 7:51:53 PM Permalink

In general, there are two types of students. Those who do things because they want to, and those who do things because they see a gain professionally - financially, or are required. For the most part, people who like being life long learners, are more likely to take additional training.

ELearning enviornments are a bit tricky. On one hand we want to assume that adults will have a ethical standard to the quality of their work, but the reality is that they are going to only complete a certain level of work without a check and balance.

Creating a check is very difficult in an eLearning enviornment because of the number of potential participants.

I am not sure what the solution is, but I would like very much to explore it.

Basim Assaf

Posted on 2/5/15 5:33:14 PM Permalink

I have made one eLearning course as well as an ibook. I am very interested in eLearning as I think it is the direction that postsecondary education is heading towards. There are many obstacles and many educators just put courses onlines, thinking that it becomes an eLearning course, without paying much attention or thought about the adult learner or the design, delivery and evaluation of those courses.

I think that some of Knowles ideas fit nicely with eLearning, as an example asynchronous learning that is collaborative, or learning based on problem solving, or hands on approach workshops.

Such methods give the trainees the opportunity to learn on their own at a time of their choosing, which gives them a sense of controlling their education. In a workshop to teach people how to use a certain software such as Adobe Photoshop, it is possible to incorporate most of Knowles points, but in a regular course, it is not possible, for instance, to ask the students to decide on how and what to learn due to the present structure of the educational system.

I think that some of points suggested by Knowles can fit and be used effectively in eLearning, depending on the design and the objectives of the course


Madra Ullrich

Posted on 2/4/15 5:21:47 PM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning? (For example, do you use it to deliver your professional development trainings? Do you help educators incorporate eLearning into their teaching practices?)

There is a huge emerging market that coincides with eLearning and that is ePublishing. The development of applications and ePublications is what I am highly interested in. The greatest aspect of eLearning is the flexibility of learning (self-paced) as well as the simplicity for teacher to monitor each student’s progress easily and with minimal effort. The interactivity engages the student at a level that cannot be supplied in a classroom environment. The interactivity is on a one on one basis with the user whereas a classroom setting cannot provide this one on one level. Paperwork (classroom) versus no paperwork (eLearning).

I haven’t taught eLearning practices but I have taken several courses via the internet. I have talked to several teachers that use it and actually prefer teaching through internet courses. Because it streamlines their responsibilities as a teacher (scoring tests, reviewing assignments, and graphs out the progress of each student). Making a teacher’s job easy!!! For example, the applications can alert the teacher when a student has fallen behind as well as provide alerts to the student that they have not completed their assignment. It also can prevent a student from progressing until they complete the assignment as well. Also they can provide more courses available for students per semester—more income to school.

The only drawback to eLearning is the isolation and restricted social interaction that a student has. Group interaction is via discussions on forums but it tends to make a student secluded, removed, and isolated from society. There is very little one on one interaction and I am not sure if there could be social ramifications if future generations only interact with others via a computer monitor. There is a virtual reality and then there is reality in terms of social interaction.

Also the teacher never quite gets to know their students, unless the student actively participates within a forum. Even in that scenario a student never gets to know their teacher at all except by way of what they type to them or see a video clip of a lecture. So there is kind of a sense of a social loss with eLearning. But the flexibility of learning and being self-paced is more beneficial than that sense of social connection.

I think eLearning is ideal for an adult but for students K-12 I have a big question mark? I am not sure if it is good for a child or adolescence to have a sense of isolation with limited social interaction. They would not know how to interact on a one on one basis nor know how to act in a group setting. For K-12 their needs to be a balance between a classroom environment and eLearning environment.

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it’s possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment?

I think all six best practices can be easily implemented within eLearning environment. I think as a developer that Knowles best practices need to be integrated within the framework of the eLearning classroom as well as in ePublications and interactivity level.

Which of Knowles’s six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

I think possibly the hardest assumption is how you would incorporate an individual’s lifetime experiences to be integrated within the environment. The only thing that comes to mind is to have an assignment provide that opportunity.


Najet Batnini

Posted on 2/4/15 3:21:09 PM Permalink

I find it very convenient and faster to follow eLearning and use it for professional development trainings. It's the number one way for me to keep on learning while I'm sitting at my desk. Then I am able to perform and transmit the knowledge to my peers or students.

Helen Castanedo

Posted on 2/4/15 4:00:22 AM Permalink

I always try to use a combination of blended learning using face to face for primarily instruction but reinforcing this with online learning and learning management systems such as MOODLE with both students and training other educators. I have enjoyed my own learning experiences with eLearning especially the self directed aspects of the process.

I believe that eLearning can meet the needs of the adult learner if its used interactively and with quality discussions and forums. But to effectively meets all of Knowles’ six assumptions a blended approach is best.

Suzy Linstrom

Posted on 2/3/15 10:09:32 PM Permalink

I have experience with elearning more as a student, but have not delivered any PD sessions to my teachers that way. All of our sessions are face-to-face. It would be of interest to me and something I may consider trying in the future. I believe all of the assumptions could be covered in an online environment, it would depend on how they're presented.

Petra Perz

Posted on 2/3/15 6:35:53 PM Permalink

I'm very interested in eLearning but my experience is as an eLearner .I have never used it to deliver professional development sessions. However, I would like one day to be able to or to help others to use this environment. I think technology is a great help and surely it will improve massively in the near future. Satisfying adults' need to know is easily met in this environment. You can learn almost anything already ( it's got its limitations,because it's not open to everyone,for instance ,if you don't speak English, which is the language most used, or can't afford internet access) and the most difficult would be the lack of real contact between teacher and learner, which is always a drawback, no matter how good the video and audio connections are.

Carlos Anjos

Posted on 2/3/15 3:57:27 PM Permalink

I have little experience with e-learning and a lot of interest in using online environments for training, but never used tools of connection simultaneously. yes, of course that is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment. But clearly depends largely on student interest , dispersed is very easy .

I believe Need to Know is the most likely way that will keep the student in an online environment without losing focus on learning. I think all the assumptions are positive for any learning modality.


Tarek Bahaa El Deen

Posted on 2/2/15 5:28:19 PM Permalink

I still have little experience and interest in eLearning
yes I think it’s possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment.
Need to Know :how to tell the trainees why they need to learn this course, and what the benefits on their professional development. this is easily Knowles’s assumptions met in an eLearning environment.
Problem-Centered : i well give the trainees a chance to express their problem-centered to join it with context, is more difficult to meet

udesh naidoo

Posted on 2/2/15 1:39:00 PM Permalink

My interest in e-learning stems from the current trend of information delivery, and the modern students attraction to all things electronic. Adult students who are exposed to the online delivery of information might not tick all the boxes of 21st century learners and/or digital natives, however the world we live in is becoming more and more paperless.

My experience thus far is using Edmodo and Facebook to encourage students to interact more actively with learning materials and to use these applications to draw them in and guide them towards lifelong learning; which as I said before is linked to interfacing with technology.

I believe that a blended approach to adult learning will be more effective than the sole medium of e-learning or online learning. Having said that my understanding of Knowles' Assumptions leads me to conclude that assumptions 1,2,3 & 6 can be comfortably accommodated, but I think 4 & 5 would need a face to face element to successfully meet Knowles' criteria.

Sue Hunt

Posted on 2/2/15 1:15:07 AM Permalink

My first exposure to e-learning was an online class at the community college where I teach in a traditional classroom. I would like to convert some of my classes to an online format. My students are a mix of young people fresh out of high school and adults who are looking to change careers or expand their abilities in order to better themselves.

I agree with Knowles' six assumptions and can see all of them entering into the planning of learning materials and programs.

David McGill

Posted on 2/2/15 1:12:46 AM Permalink

My first experience and interest in eLearning arose when my wife got a job teaching English Literature for an online university. I like to evaluate coming educational trends using three requirements.

  1. Is it faster?
  2. Is it cheaper?
  3. is it more convenient?
If the new learning activity meets these criteria, I know I better get trained and ready to adapt.
From 2006 -2010 I signed on as an online adjunct teaching graphic design, at first working with pre-designed courses, later developing online application tutorials.

Currently, I am working with Faculty Development, who are launching a program to assist professors in all programs with the skill and knowledge to move toward blended learning. These principles are used to inform non-computer-based curriculum developers to grow in their recognition of young adult learning propensities, based on Mark Prensky's studies concerning digital natives.


B Greer

Posted on 3/1/15 10:30:11 PM Permalink

What are some the challenges that professors have shared regarding blended learning?

Andrea Marz

Posted on 2/1/15 3:00:12 PM Permalink

Colin Byers

Posted on 2/1/15 5:33:27 AM Permalink

My experience and interest in e-learning started some time ago. However, it wasn't until 2009 when I worked as a Moodle administrator that I really become involved. Currently I use Moodle to complement my face to face teaching and e-learning has been a focus in my Master's certificate program in instructional design. I've often been in the role of technology coach in my schools and have helped colleagues to set up and design their course materials for online and blended delivery.

I think it's entirely possible to meet the needs of adult learners in an e-learning environment. I think almost all of Knowles principles can be met with ease.


Richard Stejer

Posted on 2/1/15 9:24:36 AM Permalink

I have a similar background. I have used Moodle in universities and then built my own Moodle site to deliver with a flipped-classroom approach. I am conscious that many people, particularly younger adults, want creativity and define it as visual appeal. Thus I want as much as possible to expand my course materials from narrated PowerPoints to greater interactivity.

Designing with interactivity is the reason why I am interested in this Adobe course. I use Captivate fairly well, but not very sophisticated. I also need to explore additional ways to creatively express ideas with other Adobe products. All advice is appreciated!

kiesha poole

Posted on 2/1/15 4:21:19 AM Permalink

We do use some E-learning with our students including Tenmarks, MobyMax and Fastmath. As an adult learner I myself have taken quite a few online classes and have found that I most successful when I treat it like a traditional class. I "show up" at a preset day and hold class on my own. I am less likely to procrastinate and do things like laundry or watch television because eI have to be there because it predetermined date and time (I get a study room at the library). As for professional development I have not done or facilitated much online. I have participated online, but not facilitated.

E-learning is a good forum for professional development. Teachers can do it when it most convenient and they can participate by completing discussion questions and responses. Also they can do live chats, giving them a chance to share knowledge and experiences with their peers. E-learning allows autonomy and control. It may also allow them to take classes that are more relevant to their needs depending upon the course offerings. The motivation behind taking the course intrinsic or extrinsic can be satisfied online as well. You take what you need to get ahed professionally as well receive that sense of accomplishment fro reaching your goals. This all will depend greatly on how the class is structured the participants motivation and the availability of a diverse course offerings. But I believe all Knowles Assumptions can be achieves through E-learning with the right planning.

Valery Keibler

Posted on 2/1/15 3:46:30 AM Permalink

I design online. blended, and onsite training for both adult students in credit classes and also faculty and staff at a college. I keep a list of Knowles ideas on my wall and I design everything to address these 6 areas. I made an evaluation sheet to review these points so that the participants can provide feedback if I obtained these points in my courses - or if I need to do things differently to be more effective.

Sue Howlett

Posted on 2/2/15 2:21:28 PM Permalink

I hadn't heard of Knowels until this course, but actually I like the way you are applying it to your own teaching, although I use a feedback form, your approach probably gives a better indication if you have delivered what you say you will deliver, I might try that myself.

Thanks for sharing

Christina Steel

Posted on 2/1/15 2:59:46 AM Permalink

I developed the first online course in my department. There is a huge push in education to make online courses a reality as they are more accessible and more importantly, cheap for the University. Meeting the needs of the adult learner is definitely possible online. The nature of online education often means that adult learners can fit the instruction into their normal schedules and learn more at their own pace; however, one major drawback is that completion rates tend to be low because people get distracted with their lives. This happens with students of any age. Course size can be difficult; in MOOCs, polling 4000 people to find out what they want to learn is impractical. There are also technological limitations--the more users on a video course, the slower the connection and the more technical difficulties people tend to experience. Some of these are the same issues you would have in face-to-face courses too.

Michelle Pacey

Posted on 1/31/15 11:48:13 AM Permalink

I have had experience in Moodle environments, but nothing that included video - all document based. I imagine that eLearning environments allow learners to choose what they want to skip or revisit (to an extent - move through unlocked areas at will). Depending if the content is pre-recorded, the difficulty may be in the student's ability to choose their own relevant content. Many learners also respond better to a person in the room - some one-on-one to help troubleshoot a particular problem.

Patrick Hourigan

Posted on 1/30/15 6:57:00 PM Permalink

I hardly ever use eLearning. My clientele prefer face to face meetings, and I've found that posting instructional videos is infuriating when you want a specific answer that doesn't necessitate watching an entire video (I'm looking at you, Apple). Additionally, posting the kind of differentiated instruction required by the people I work with is nearly impossible. It's far easier to change my delivery on the fly in person if I pick up that people are falling behind or have questions I didn't anticipate. A truly dynamic eLearning platform could help with that, but if I'm moderating an online forum I might as well be holding an in-person workshop.

eLearning can be great for self-directed learners, but I think it's tough to be able to respond to all of the varied questions people would have.

Judith Wood

Posted on 1/30/15 5:50:47 PM Permalink

I have taken many online courses, completed them all however some were much more engaging and stimulating because they adhered to the Knowles Assumptions. The college that I teach at uses "Blackboard" for it's central communication hub. Although incredibly cumbersome, the idea of centralized information is invaluable. Many of my lessons or specific skills are turned into videos and I post for the students to reference.

I do believe online or eLearning has a huge place in education however there are many course that required direct hands on guidance to be successful.

Relevance and Need to Know is clear when one takes an online course as it is predefined in most cases.

Life Long Experience may be difficult to meet if there isn't proper discussion forums.

Nikki Hensley

Posted on 1/30/15 5:19:32 PM Permalink

I teach online courses and use web enhanced courses in my other classes.

I think you can accomplish the six assumption through online learning. I haven't mastered that yet. But actually these Adobe classes have given me ideas on how to enhance the community section of classes so they know each other and can interact with each other more.

rafael nicolau

Posted on 1/30/15 9:52:53 AM Permalink

In a world increasingly developed technologically , ignore the advantages that these avaços bring us is to stay behind, we competitindo with people increasingly capable and so we must become increasingly accessible . eLearning is a step that we can track this development .

CLAUDIA ACOSTA

Posted on 1/29/15 11:49:18 PM Permalink

I graduated from a Masters program that was 100% online. Right now in my job I help teacher integrate e-learning in their classes.

My experience let me attest that it is possible to meet most of the needs of adult learners with an online class. Technology is helping meet all the adult learning needs proposed in Knowles's Assumptions. Because adults are a more mature audience for training. Self direction and internal motivation make the job of the trainer easier because the trainer can focus the course on specific areas without too much explanation of why it is pivotal to learn material that may not apply but is necessary to accomplish the objective of the course.

Problem solving an other group activities are the perfect scenario to apply life experiences and previous knowledge. Interaction let members of a group share previous success, and provide inside for the creation of new methods to reach a goal.

Clear expectations and specific goals that are relevant and achievable are powerful incentives to take a class.

If the class encourages expression of ideas, interaction, reasoning, critical expression and feedback the adult learners feels respected and learn to distinguish what is important and relevant in the course.

Neisha Leacock

Posted on 1/29/15 4:58:41 PM Permalink

In an eLearning environment, I think it is very possible to meet the adult learners' needs. Knowles' assumptions can be met as follows (not an extensive list, just examples):

Need to Know: Advanced Organizer (Narrative, KWL chart as suggested in the video)

Self Directing: allow adult learner to select which components they need and want to complete, and the components don't have to be completed linearly

Lifetime of Experience/Relevance/Problem Centered: have discussions (like this one) where adult learners can share, make assignments flexible so that they can apply what they learn to solve problems that are important to them

Motivators: Write the content so that it connects with the adult learner

I'm in the process of looking at options to help an educator incorporate eLearning into her practice.

Leonardo caroleo

Posted on 1/29/15 1:51:06 PM Permalink

I have experienced a lot of elearning through a variety of courses I have joined. I use it to develop my personal learning and development and feel it is a superb way to educate. i have incorporated a little in what I do but am looking to develop it further.

I think it is possible to meet the needs of adult learners and engage them in another way to develop the skills they need. It is good for adult learners to have a way of working that can suit them and they can work at their own pace. I have found it an invaluable way of learning new skills and developing ideas.

Of knowles six assumptions relevancy oriented is one easily met as their is a wealth of e-learning avaliable to adult learners and they have a choice of what they want to learn. In the eLearning i have been doing with Adobe I have found that the live forums and discussion access the lifetime of experience as we can share what we know and have experienced.

Depending on how the eLearning is done self-directing could be the most difficult to meet as they may not have direct input into their learning.

Catherine Stephensen

Posted on 1/29/15 5:22:07 AM Permalink

I don't think that any of Knowles assumptions are particularly difficult to meet, they just take a bit more time in the planning. Utilising the students prior experience can allow them to 'fast-track' through a program, if the program is structured well. Creating P(B)CL scenario's is absolutely possible (gaming) and engaging extrinsic and intrinsic motivators is also easy (Certificates & badges for extrinsic motivation, forums, peer collaboration, beautiful design, ticking off sections for intrinsic motivation).

Catherine Stephensen

Posted on 1/29/15 5:17:41 AM Permalink

I have been working as an instructional designer with Moodle and Blackboard platforms for the past couple of years. I have also jumped in online and joined in a number of MOOCS to gain experience as an online learner. (The best one by far is Coursera's EDCMOOC) What i learnt form these experiences's is that most courses only scratch the surface of the delivery & engagement potential of digital tools in online learning. All 6 of Knowles Adult learner assumptions can be catered for in an online environment. Perhaps the most applicable of the 6 are Self-direction, Need to know and Relevance orientation. What do people do when they 'need to know'? they look up Dr. Google of course. Here they have applied the three principle sod 'Need to Know; Relevance (to the need) and Self Direction, to their personal learning.

Alberto Odor

Posted on 1/28/15 10:29:03 PM Permalink

I have considerable experience in adult learning a a Professor of graduate students in the University of California. I also have experience as a student of numerous MOOCs and other eLearning methods.

eLearning is a great tool for adult learners as it saves time and resources. The only thing needed to succeed is motivation and a well prepared eLearning course.

Hubert Simon

Posted on 1/28/15 5:36:52 PM Permalink

I have done online courses in my graduate studies and other workshops. I have also completed coursework in the delivery of online classes but I have not used it in any of my classes. I do think that there is a need for eLearning in the adult education community and learners are becoming more receptive to using this type of of learning.

Cynthia Manrrique

Posted on 1/28/15 4:44:32 AM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning? (For example, do you use it to deliver your professional development trainings? Do you help educator incorporate eLearning into their teaching practice?)

Other than creating an eLearning course for my masters and for my class, I really haven't delivered any professional development training as of yet.

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment? YES

Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment?
I do believe that an online learning environment can meet the needs of an adult learner.

Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why? The assumption of Self-Directed learning could be easily met in an eLearning environment, especially if it is created as a self-paced learning environment.

The assumption that may be difficult to meet would be the Relevancy Oriented because a trainer would create an eLearning environment assuming what the learner would want to learn and changes may be difficult to keep up to make changes for the learners needs.


Dorothy Yu

Posted on 1/28/15 4:38:32 AM Permalink

I support my colleagues in setting up blended learning in Science classes via the Schoology website.

My interests are online assessments and peer reviews.

I think asking for input on timing activities might be difficult to achieve. How to promote independence and autonomy in young adult learners?

E-learning environment needs to be well set out to keep learners interested and value what they do. It does incorporate all of Knowles' assumption.

Terrell Neuage

Posted on 1/27/15 11:15:14 PM Permalink

Which of these strategies do you currently incorporate into your professional development sessions?

1 . Forming small groups then coming back to the total group to discuss findings gives more individual input.

2. giving choices for activities


My first experience with eLearning was the past two decades of my own learning doing a BA, BA with Honours, Masters, PhD, Teachers Degree all as eLearning.

From my past leadership jobs as technology integrator and instructor at an international school in China, public and private schools in New York and at four different universities between Australia and the States I have incorporated eLearning with professional development. For example, the past three years I led a 'technology Monday' once a month where teachers demo or I demonstrated a tool such as a web creation program or graphic or text editing software and teachers would break into groups for their subjects to explore and find ways to incorporate the tool into their curriculum. During the following month I would engage online with their work.

Self-directed E-learning coupled with face-to-face learning (which includes Skype and etc.) is an effective method for adults (teachers past 40) as the mature learner tends not to try multitasking but stays on task. I have led many professional development sessions and taught university classes with young adults (below 40-45) spending the majority of the session on social media or emailing or engaged in self centred promotions.

The 'need to know' is the most easily achieved by presenting concise to the point material and preventing the need to segue into unnecessary material.

I have found the self-directing most difficult especially with young teachers (age 22 – 40; I consider an adult teacher as one over 45 and an experienced life teacher as one over 50 and a chilled teacher able to really share as one over 60; soon I will be 70 then I will have first hand knowledge of learners in their 70s) as their sessions would often end as gossip sessions and I would need to assist with getting back on task.


Ginger Armstrong

Posted on 1/27/15 7:26:18 PM Permalink

Making learning available online certainly fits the self directing. I also like the fact that you can record tutorials so that you don't have to go over the same materials over and over. The ability to come back to the material when you need it also makes it fit the relevance section from Knowles's assumptions.

Aaron Metz

Posted on 1/27/15 1:48:41 PM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning? (For example, do you use it to deliver your professional development trainings? Do you help educators incorporate eLearning into their teaching practices?)

My Masters Research focused on Peer Mentoring and Professional Learning strategy for successful eLearning. One of responsibilities is to support teachers in my school to incorporate eLearning into their teaching and learning.

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it’s possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment?

Yes I do think it is possible, I do it up to three times annually with approximately 80 teachers each session. I also use a Blended Learning approach to teaching Design to approximately 300 students.

Which of Knowles’s six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

Need to Know is easily met, going beyond a slide with bullets and narration, you can use a talking head video on green screen which is more engaging.

Perhaps Problem Centred is the most challenging as it take a concerted effort to develop a relevant, rigorous and timely problem that can be complete with minimal guidance.


KIM CAVANAUGH

Posted on 1/27/15 11:18:59 AM Permalink

Experience:

I am deeply involved in eLearning on several levels:

In my day job at a large K-12 school district I develop training for a staff that numbers nearly 20,000 and is spread over a huge geographic area in nearly 200 schools and offices. eLearning is essential in our environment as there are simply too many of them and to few of me. I've developed and published courses--primarily for teachers--on our classroom web publishing system, on the WordPress system we use for classroom blogs, the Adobe Elements applications, and several others. These courses were delivered by various methods including Moodle and Adobe Connect.

As the "Adobe guy" in our organization I work with the professional developers in our many departments providing training and support for Presenter, Captivate, and Adobe Connect. Ironically (perhaps) all of that kind of training is done face-to-face.

Outside of the day job I have been designing and publishing online courses in Dreamweaver for over 8 years. My co-author and I recently converted all of our materials into a new online textbook format that we are real excited about due to its ability to employ many of the best practices we've learned in online learning.

Learning Theory:

Of course the principles discussed by Knowles are applicable in eLearning environments. However, there are greater challenges involved and the work can be much more subtle. Elements as simple as providing navigation through course content and the visual user experience can have a huge impact on learning.

Deborah Lloyd

Posted on 1/27/15 5:51:14 AM Permalink

I currently work with only online or blended elearning for tertiary education purposes. My experience shows that not all learning can be 100% online. Some subjects require a blended approach e.g. naturopathy and beauty therapy. This can usually be determined by the subject or the learner demographics. Self-directing can be more difficult to present in an online environment and with some subjects not lending themselves to this assumption easily due to scaffolding that is required. Relevance and need to know are more easily met in an elearning environment as these can be incorporated into the course learning objectives.

Sam Bizri

Posted on 1/27/15 3:55:21 AM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning? (For example, do you use it to deliver your professional development trainings? Do you help educator incorporate eLearning into their teaching practice?)

I'm and educational designer and develop and support on-line learning all day everyday. I also assist academics in incorporating online learning materials / objects in their courses.

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment? Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

yes you can but it depends on the course content. Sometimes the course has to be created as a blended approach and not completely on-line. We now approach our course design by using Flipped methods and lecturers / teachers and expected to be able to use a lot of different tools to make that happen. A lot of support is required not only to the end student but also to the teachers creating the content and to bring their skill level up to date with today's teaching and learning trends


Valerie Agramonte

Posted on 1/27/15 12:27:07 AM Permalink

My first experience with eLearning was in a blended environment when I obtained my Gifted Teaching Endorsement. From there, I took training in blended learning, began to incorporate that in my teaching practice, and now teach 10th graders English Literature online, as well as 6th graders face to face. Ever since my blended learning training, I have incorporated this in some way with my students, and have made myself available as a resource to others who are interested.
Not only is it possible to meet adult learner's needs in the online setting, but it is often preferable to learning in person--it all depends on the context, of course.
Relevancy is most easily met in the online environment.
Self-directing could be very difficult for someone who needs in-person contact, and the only opportunity for a particular professional development opportunity is online. For example, let's say there is a teacher who needs to earn learning units in order to renew his/her certificate. Time is running short for this person, so s/he must take a class online. This could be a very stressful experience if the person is not good at keeping up with deadlines and working independently.

Yevhen Plotnikov

Posted on 1/26/15 11:20:53 PM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning?

My department was among the first to introduce computers into foreign language teaching in the country. I continue this tradition with 'IT in foreign language teaching' course. Nowadays we use a wide range of tools (from LMS to mobile devices) to teach future and current language teachers throughout several regions.

Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment?

Why not? If we assume that eLearning is a possible and acceptable way of learning, why can't it work for adults? Meeting the needs of learners depends not on the tools you use to teach, but on the way you do it.

Jonas Almeida

Posted on 1/26/15 10:12:59 PM Permalink

The University where I was teaching have introduced e-learning classes a while ago. Most of the students don't like it and would prefer to have it the traditional way.
On the other hand, everyone must agree that it makes possible to have the 'best on the field' teaching to people in places where it would never be possible before.
I've designed content for some e-classes before, but I if one content is suitable for e-learning depends on the subject, as I can't see a software been taught through e-learning as on my head, the student need more than just copy the work as I could see on some digital classes over the internet.

Halle Cisco

Posted on 1/26/15 9:21:55 PM Permalink

I became interested in it as a way to incorporate my graphic design knowledge with my educational background. I didn't realize I was already creating eLearning videos for my students and wanted to take a more focused look at how I can create more engagement and interactivity for my students.

I do think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner through eLearning and an online learning environment. This type of learning offers flexibility and the way many of us are currently learning.

Anita Thiernian

Posted on 1/26/15 8:55:42 PM Permalink

The director of my department has recently instructed us to prepare content for “flipped workshops” so that we can move some of our training material to online delivery. We haven’t released any of the courses yet so time will tell if we’re still able to meet the needs of our audience. Knowle’s statement about relevance is easily met because the flipped workshop descriptions provide the usual what and why. I think the motivators are even more difficult, however, since many people will find it difficult to participate if they can’t leave their office to do so.

Ronald Byrd

Posted on 1/26/15 8:28:05 PM Permalink

I am here because I do deliver eLearning for my school district. I have used Captivate on and off for a number of years (Was a campus admin for a while. Didn't have a need for it then). In my current role, I help educators incorporate eLearning into their teaching through LMS like Moodle and Edmodo.

I think you can meet the needs of adult learning in an online format. All are easily met except for the participants being internally motivated and bringing in life experiences. As I previously stated, teachers often don't have a say in what learning they do or when they do it. As far as bringing life experiences into the learning, using forums and discussions can easily solve that. But, in doing so, there has to be an understanding that, the fourm is for sharing and not flaming others.

anil vithanage

Posted on 1/26/15 3:37:10 PM Permalink

this is the first time i am going to experience e learning because of this course . so i think e learning is very interesting way of catering to the people in different walk of lives. specially with adult learners, as they have lot of things to in their house holds it give them certain relief learn when they are ready.

referring the specific materials and use their own pace to find the solutions to the questions given by the host is very convenient because of the e learning system.

i think according to my point of view for e learning necessary technology place a major roll. i would like to put this as an assumption specially who descends from Asian region. if we can create that environment, it will be very easy to handle the adult learners.

David Hotler

Posted on 1/25/15 11:09:52 PM Permalink

My interest in eLearning covers three facets. One, I use Adobe Connect to deliver professional learning sessions to teachers so that I can reach them at a time and place convenient for them. Two, I help teachers utilize similar eLearning tools like content management systems, to better their classroom management and content delivery. Third, and the most important, is that eLearning is the future of our educational structure, not to say it will replace teachers, but will be an important part of the learning experience of our students.

I most certainly think that it is possible to meet the needs of adult learners in an eLearning setting. I myself studied for my masters degree online at Full Sail University. I also reach teachers using Adobe Connect. As long as the learner is willing to engage in a learning setting that different than they are used too. I think once you get an adult to join the eLearning experience, the easiest assumption of Knowles to conquer in an eLearning session is the need for adults to be self-directed. Many times eLearning is very self-directed and requires the adult to apply themselves before and outside of the learning experience. The more difficult of the assumptions to meet is readiness to learn. Most adults don't even give eLearning a chance and thus you don't get to tackle meeting all the other needs.

Lee Keller

Posted on 1/25/15 9:16:46 PM Permalink

I have been involved in eLearning since 2001 when I taught Dreamweaver, Fireworks and Flash in an online format. We didn't have an LMS. We didn't have a discussion board. All I had was a curriculum, assets, and ftp sites I created for each participant. Since, I have been a system administrator for Blackboard and Moodle LMS platforms. I have trained teachers and administrators in the use of these programs and also given my own trainings this way. One of the things I am doing now is teaching Captivate 8 through our professional development department to key groups that will be creating courses and content. My primary duty right now is an FL-DOE statewide course equal to 60 or more hours. It is asynchronous and is available to all 67 districts in Florida.

I love online training and teaching for a number of reasons, but most of all for the challenge. I believe it is extremely difficult due to the lack of eye-to-eye feedback that is lost in this environment. There is a lot to be said for face-to-face training. I feel my job is to bridge that gap and provide instructional situations that come close to face-to-face while allowing my participants proceed at a pace that fits their lives and responsibilities. I am constantly learning new methods and creating many of my own.

A significant "assumption" Knowles overlooked is that often participants are in a course or program because it is required or it simply fulfills a mandate. For example, I teach adults. It should be safe to say they are all college graduates since they have to be teachers. Yet, I will be taking 20 hours of ESE courses to meet a State mandate for certificate renewal. This will not fit into any of the assumptions. It is often the only reason participants in my program start. They need points in PD to renew. What I have found and documented is that my content is engaging enough to change that perspective. Comments often indicate they took the course for the points, but learned so much they became immersed in the subject material and enjoyed teaching their students in the application section.

I am against assumptions. They leave too much to chance. They are not best practices. They are, at best, clues to look for in your program to help guide you in the direction of your content and the interpretations your participants may come back with. I assume my participants know nothing about online courses, using a computer, navigating an LMS, or my subject material. I create videos and experiences through which they can learn about them and I can learn their knowledge levels. I create processes that allow users to skip quickly through what they already know and get to the material they need. My evaluation processes tell them if they really knew it and forces them to review material they missed.

As I said above, eLearning is the most difficult form of teaching. It is the responsibility of the teacher or trainer to eliminate the barriers as much as possible without assuming any element of the participants. I think the elements of Knowles's assumptions are for an ideal class. I have never had an ideal class.

jennifer coombes

Posted on 1/25/15 8:43:49 PM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning?

I have taken several classes online but I have never taught one utilizing eLearning. After this course that may be something that I look into. I do use Google Groups in my high school classrooms which utilizes the same concepts. I teach at an urban, low income school so the option to do flipped classroom techniques is largely not an option.

This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment?

I think for adults any kind of goal or accomplishment has to be a priority for them to spend the time on independent learning, particularly when there is not a monetary or academic consequence. It is almost entirely dependent upon self motivation and the dedication to devote a portion of their time to achieving a goal. Adult learners have many distractions and commitments. I definitely do not think that eLearning is easier, as many assume with online courses. I think it is more time intensive and more difficult to ascertain learning happening in some ways.

Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

I agree that getting quick answers to questions makes it hard for problem solving and problem-centered learning. It can make the experience frustrating if you are stuck on a problem and must wait for help.

I believe that eLearning is great for learners who are motivated to learn and are dedicating to a task. I think Youtube is a great illustration of how if someone is motivated to learn, they will find a source of information and learn. Online learning does not replace classrooms, but it can enhance the experience.


Andrea Cebula

Posted on 1/27/15 2:47:19 PM Permalink

How are Google grips working for you, Jennifer?

Mark Janke

Posted on 1/25/15 7:42:17 PM Permalink

I have taken and conducted many eLearning courses or PD sessions. Most of my sessions have focused on the flipped/blended classroom model.
Problem-centered learning seems to be difficult because feedback is delayed.

Roberto Alejandro Nuñez Lévano

Posted on 1/25/15 7:13:56 AM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning? (For example, do you use it to deliver your professional development trainings? Do you help educator incorporate eLearning into their teaching practice?)

I want to learn Adobe e-learning tools. At the moment I use an open source platform called Chamilo to teach my students several courses. Our high school this year wants to incorporate eLearning practice to our curriculum, I would like to guide our staff.


This week in the Professional Development Design section of the course, we explored best practices in adult learning theory. Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment? Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

Yep I think is possible but it requires to be creative.

EASYLY MET - Need to Know, Relevancy-Oriented, Problem-Centered

DIFFICULT TO MEET - Self-Directing, Lifetime of Experience, Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivators (Because it requires constant feedback of the teacher)

Shanlee Liu

Posted on 1/25/15 4:29:49 AM Permalink

Especially for adult's need to know, self-directing and lifetime of experience motivation, e-learning can provide a convenient and more economic way to learn. It is usually harder to know the relevancy of the research topics for the participants and what are the problem participants facing from day to day. The active and honest communication between the e-learning provider and participants are crucial for success.

Wendy Sandstrom

Posted on 1/24/15 11:55:10 PM Permalink

My main goal is-I would like to transform the courses I teach for Community Ed into online courses that participants can take at any time. This would also apply to demos and how-to videos I would like to create on our internal systems and programs. My secondary goal is-I would also like to gain more experience as an Instructional Designer and build a better portfolio of my skills. A side goal-In a small way, I would like to be prepared to give guidance to teachers I work with who are interested in offering online content...I say in a small way because we are an elementary school and even concepts like flipping the classroom are not widely discussed in our building.

Michael Larocque

Posted on 1/24/15 11:51:50 PM Permalink

eLearning seems to be the way of the future, so I see it as important for teachers to educate themselves on how to execute it well. At my school, a significant percentage of students will complete some part of their schooling through an eLearning course, and an increasing amount of our classroom based courses now incorporate meaningful eLearning components. Since this is a growing area in education, I want to make sure I'm doing it well.

Shireen Ramjahn

Posted on 1/24/15 11:26:12 PM Permalink

I experience e learning by creating elearning products for our school internal systems as well as external products. These are then given to the teachers for self study.

Online learning can definitely meet the needs of the adult learning as they can do it in their own time and meet the demands of their work and personal life. That being said self directing is the assumption that can be met through e learning.

Martin Guinn

Posted on 1/24/15 10:20:48 PM Permalink

I experience with as a student and teaching in an eLearning environment. I primary job is to develop eLearning products for the government. These products are used for self-taught courses and for instructor classroom use.

Online learning (eLearning) can met the needs of the adult learning. The biggest problem is for the adult learner to let go of the traditional learning environment and adapt to this environment -- after all we've adapted to smart phones.

Knowles assumptions: Need to Know, Relevancy-oriented, Problem-centered, and motivation are the easiest to incorporate into eLearning. The difficulties are with self-directing and life experience. These two assumptions would need out-of-the-box thinking. They are not as clear-cut, but they are not impossible to meet - just challenging.

PIERRE MICHEL

Posted on 1/24/15 6:30:10 PM Permalink

I embrace eLearning because it is not judgmental or intimidating to learners. Most of the student-body (especially the challenge students) at my school are more engage in the lab than their classrooms. I use certain sites and softwares to help

Brenda Tuncer

Posted on 1/24/15 4:08:33 PM Permalink

I am very interested in elearning. I believe you can reach more people because they can work at thier own pace and not be stuck going to a classroom at a certain time. Life happens and we know that. I have begun a little bit of elearning with my first graders. they are connected to an LMS and we have begun learning online. I began it this year but I see is growing in the next couple of years. I have learned and will continue to learn through this experience. I would like to use some of these assumptions with my students I think many of them apply to them also.

I do think it is possible to meet the needs of the learner through elearning. You just have to use synchonous and asychonous learning. Face to face is possible with elearning.

Kathleen Rush

Posted on 1/24/15 3:41:21 PM Permalink

For the most part I've been a participant in eLearning activities. I have found some courses to be more useful than others, but overall every course incorporated (or tried to) Knowles strategies. Reflection and sharing have always been a significant part of every course I have taken. I'd like to increase my knowledge about eLearning as well as better develop my technical skills so that I can offer my teachers a more complete eLearning experience. While online learning cannot replace face-to-face instruction it is a valuable medium that is playing an ever more important role in our educational system. It offers a different way to learn, which for the adult learner can be more enticing and useful.

Christopher Hill

Posted on 1/24/15 12:50:08 PM Permalink

Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

Self-directing is the obvious one that can be met within eLearning. Enabling adults to learn at their own pace and choose their own learning (as we are doing here) is a key benefit.

I don't think eLearning can replace the teacher in the classroom however as my experiences have shown that technology works best in a blended environment. To keep adults motivated to continue their learning online, to have (almost too much) responsibility for their own learning is tough - especially when life gets in the way.

Dominic McCall

Posted on 1/24/15 11:02:15 AM Permalink

I enjoy elearning as it can be self paced and I only choose what I want to do!

Although I recommend elearning courses to colleagues not many are interested- so it's how to break down colleagues phobias!

jessica millar

Posted on 1/24/15 7:59:26 AM Permalink

I am wanting to develop an elearning flipped set up within my classroom throughout the year to prepare student for what I believe to be the future of learning for courses during and past school years. I am also working with a small group of teachers at the moment like minded who are doing a similar set up with the aim to develop more educators within our school to be more confident using elearning as a tool within their classrooms. My experience is limited at the moment as it has been more experimental for me trialing different elearning tools but throughout this year I aim to use those experiences to help others incorporate elearning into their practice.

I think that the strategies here are really good to keep in mind when planning any learning session but also to think of myself as the learner during the whole planning session.

Dawn Maitz

Posted on 1/24/15 6:46:35 AM Permalink

What is your experience and interest in eLearning?
Have been doing corporate training for years and nothing but the flipped classroom model there, but not using an online delivery mechanism. Feedback was at least partially online but not the main content.
Have also been developing websites for years and, I suppose, to some extent, offering engagement and learning content online through those sites. But I wouldn't describe it as planned "best practices" e-learning.
Would like to become proficient with e-learning so that I can better assist Baylor Entrepreneurship with moving undergrad classes online.
Do you think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning or online learning environment? Which of Knowles’ six assumptions about the way that adult learners learn is easily met in an eLearning environment? Which of the assumptions is more difficult to meet? Why?

Have taken about 10 classes online. Some were better than others but I enjoyed and valued the takeaways from all of them. It has been my experience that Knowles' assumption about self-directedness can play out strongly in an online environment. Every course I've taken has involved reflection and while there have been certain guidelines to follow on projects, we had choices to make with regard to a good part of the substance and final form. We were encouraged to form teams and incorporate our life challenges and problem-solving experiences.

Sarah Buncum

Posted on 1/24/15 1:07:40 AM Permalink

I was very much intimidated when it came to e-learning. I must say that it has not been a week of work and I am enjoying it. I am more relax and is looking forward to what is ahead. Still somewhat uneasy but not like I previously was.

Philip Nyman

Posted on 1/23/15 9:16:09 PM Permalink

At this point I have only been on the receiving side of eLearning. I see tremendous value in distance and asynchronous learning environments and that they provide new educational opportunities. My plans, and the plan for our training group is to rework many of our traditional courses into online sessions. This will provide staff, faculty and students access to our courses at their convenience, which more than cost or even time itself, is the largest barrier. I will be assisting our other instructors with their course conversions.

The difficulty of creating an instructor 'presence' is an ever-present challenge in an online environment. However, I believe that if suitably presented and motivated all six of the assumptions can be supported. Need to Know, Experience, Relevancy, Problem Centered and Motivation can be introduced through presentation and discussed in groups. The Self-Directed assumption is problematic, just as it is in any class where you have a fixed amount of time and you are attempting to bring an entire group along to reach desired, preset goals.

Konstantin Köhler

Posted on 1/23/15 8:34:45 PM Permalink

I am totally knew to e-learning but very interest. Thanks for sharing all these insights.

Thomas Joseph

Posted on 1/23/15 5:47:11 PM Permalink

Technology in the field of education can be a powerful tool. The future is all about technology with technology learning Becomes Interesting, It engages and challenges students with brand new and interactive methods. Instead of carrying lots of books, students just carry a laptop or a tablet which contain all their books and projects.

Ian Gilbert

Posted on 1/23/15 1:03:01 PM Permalink

I teach students how to use Captivate, along with some of the theory behind creating eLearning and the steps to make it work on a LMS.

ELearning does often mean that the student has to be computer literate to interact with the eLearning module and not all students are - so not meeting the needs of the student/user. So for the computer illiterate, a face to face session might be needed to explain how to use a computer and the eLearning module. To ensure that the six assumptions are met, different ways of teaching will need to be considered. Motivation can also be trickier to control as eLearning is often done by individuals at home, under their own motivation. That could be good or bad for different students. As with any method of learning, they all have their advantages and disadvantages.

Firas Jadaan

Posted on 1/23/15 8:35:12 AM Permalink

eLearning that what i love in this course and i want to know more and more about eLearning

Firas Jadaan

Posted on 1/23/15 8:30:37 AM Permalink

I will start my eLearning experience soon beacuse i'm building my eLearning website

Bob Tuttle

Posted on 1/23/15 6:16:16 AM Permalink

As educational institutions and companies move to work & study at home, or away from a physical building, eLearning because more and more important. In addition to this shift, we have an explosion of technology that has outrun education and general life experience, and the need for eLearning is now, and will be for the indefinate future. This means that there need to be people who want to take the time to become proficient at teaching/instructing in the eLearning environment. Generally, I think that the first 5 assumptions of Knowles' are reasonable, while the 6th may not be realistic in a pure eLearning setting. But, if we can address the first 5, I think we can make a great deal of progress.

Bottom Line - eLearning is here to stay, and will continue to grow at a faster rate - and we need to be prepared.

Billy Walker

Posted on 1/23/15 4:24:53 AM Permalink

I think eLearning/Online learning is largely at the beginning of the bell curve. Online sites such as CreativeLive and Lynda.com have brought the benefits of this type of learning to the forefront. I am not a professional teacher although I do have substantial background in teaching one-on-one how to use a few accounting programs back in the early days of computers in business. Although sometimes online learning can be a somewhat difficult task when trying to reach out to those teaching these types of courses I do think are proving to work remarkably well.

I do enjoy teaching others and my intent with this class is to be able to learn how to put an effective presentation together as one of a few specialty revenue streams in my company. One goal is to be able to put together an effective create once, sell many type product specializing in a few photography and video-related software packages. Another goal is to possibly create learning opportunities in poorer neighborhoods for Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements. I feel a program of this nature might be able to provide future employment and/or career-related opportunities with these types of democratization software products. Online productions challenging creativity are certainly the wave of the future and big media will be brought down to the masses. I'm not certain this is an easy positive given all the junk we find on sites such as YouTube but I can't help but feel professional-type productions will increase substantially over time.

As to Mr. Knowles assumptions I think an online environment can easily meet the assumptions as the self-driven nature of online learning tends to include all of his variables. Online truly opens the door to many career-related or interest-related learning opportunities for fields many of us would have never had the opportunity to truly explore. All while offering up the possibility of being extremely affordable due to the create once, sell many business concept. In addition, an exceptionally strong effort needs to be maintained emphasizing the need for business skills in many endeavors such as photography and video. The whole concept of this march towards democratization has sadly produced some excellent skill sets while at the same time destroying profitability for many within a business field. Many learn the craft but never understand the cost of business and the need to produce profitable products. This is a real weak point and not just in fields such as photography and video.

The democratization has brought about many with craft skills but pretty much zero business skills on what it takes to keep your new found love afloat. It is essential both business and craft skills be part of the learning process if people intend on taking these skills and turning them into a career. The business-side of this equation seems to be substantially lacking in almost all cases. Not fair to those who have been in their career for a period of time and not fair for the newbies looking to enter a lifetime career themselves.

Lauren Abbott

Posted on 1/23/15 1:15:55 AM Permalink

I have been teaching Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign as part of online courses for the past 3 years. The content has been delivered using both Moodle and Canvas. I am new to Canvas but so far am liking it better than Moodle in terms of interface.

I have encountered many problems trying to engage the students in live meet ups given the international students schedule. I also teach Face to Face and so I see a huge variation in levels of engagement and skill development. I have been using Jing to give feedback on creative submissions which has been good, but still can take a lot of time. I am trying to find a way of streamlining feedback so that I can give fast and thorough support to my online students. Hoping Canvas will open more doors for doing this.

I think that Knowles' assumption that the content needs to be relevant is an important factor in eLearning. I find that most students studying online are looking for instant results to support the job or endeavour they are currently working on.

I would love to hear some people's advice on tools for giving feedback on design projects.

Mafaz Pun

Posted on 1/23/15 12:06:28 AM Permalink

interested in eLearning, it offer me the opportunity to extend my knowledge at anytime, I start using blended learning in teaching since Sep 2014, so far I found some students prefer traditional teaching because they don't want to depend on themselves,

I think it can meet the need of the adult learners, and I think the easy assumption to meet "need to know" , if the course is designed well, and the hardest assumption is "problem centered" because it's need more interactions between trainer and students,

Jason Webb

Posted on 1/22/15 8:56:53 PM Permalink

I am starting to experiment with e-learning through an LMS that is utilized at both of the schools I work with. So far I have had good results with the content I have created and people like the self paced work they can do on their time.

I believe it can be done effectively if you have feedback throughout the course and are wiling to add or take away content as needed.

Roy Bailey

Posted on 1/22/15 8:05:12 PM Permalink

Interest in eLearning: We need a better way to make PD available to our faculty. "Just in Time Training" which allows them to consume the training they need once they figure out why they need it. "Just in Time Training" that can be accessed from home, 24 hours a day.

Is it possible to meet the needs of the adult learner? Absolutely, but preparing all this material is a lot of work.

Graeme Nelson

Posted on 1/22/15 7:47:15 PM Permalink

I have helped design online courses and produce content for teacher PD sessions (with particpants from a global spread of countries, all based in one continental region or all from a particular country) as well as PD sessions in humanitarian sector organisations such as the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies. I have also taught/facilitated on online teacher PD courses that other people have designed and developed content for.

In English for Academic Purposes courses that I teach on campus I use and support colleagues in their use of virtual learning environments (Moodle) , eportfios (Mahara) and other web based resources as appropriate. I have used Captivate to produce some materials and participant support resources and I have used Connect as a way of reducing distance and isolation and as such helping to increase motivation.

The move towards flipped classrooms would appear to meet the needs of many learners in the contexts I work in but many of the organisations I work with baulk at the cost of maintaining face-to-face elements of courses. As Jeredene and Gail suggest, Knowles' assumptions should be possible to be met through thoughtful planning and facilitation.


Andrea Marz

Posted on 1/22/15 5:25:40 PM Permalink

I have finished my degree with a research in blended learning. I think flipping the classroom is a great way to prepare students to be self-learners, although it cannot be done in every lesson. I love e-learning tools, from Moodle to creating a page on facebook, to video tutorials, anything that engage students and facilitates learning is a good tool. I see that my children learn a lot with educational apps without even noticing. I am now developing a few blended courses for the college I use to work with (I'm a freelancer) so no promise they will ever run :((. I feel most of the stuff I proposed was too far ahead for them (I've been suggesting them to introduce Edge and Muse since they were on Preview mode...). I would love to create my own website with educational content. I've already thought of all sorts. Kids learning, design, but there is so much already around. How can you compete with Brain Pop or Lynda.com?? Anyway, back to the questions, i think e-learning works better when it blends with real contact (face-to-face or via internet, activities, assignments and feedback.

John Foley

Posted on 1/22/15 5:24:54 PM Permalink

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I have been working the eLearning sphere for over ten years.

I think it possible to meet of the needs of an adult in a eLearning environment. I feel that industries need to move towards more Flipped Classroom environments to be the most effective.

The easiest of the Knowles's assumptions to be meet is problem centered. Using a story to teach is more enjoyable and connects with the students.

Cindy Leonard

Posted on 1/22/15 4:55:11 PM Permalink

I've spent more time being a recipient of eLearning than I have delivering it as a trainer. At my workplace, the trainings we offer are 99% classroom based. I've given a few webinars at work and as a guest speaker for other organizations. I maintain a wiki for most of my classroom based classes, so that I have somewhere to post presentations, in-class exercises, etc. One of the reasons I'm taking this course is to get ideas on how to incorporate eLearning into my work more effectively.
I think the adult learner's motivation to learn is the most easily met assumption in an eLearning environment. The fact that they signed up for an online learning experience would hopefully mean that they perceive a knowledge gap or are curious about the topic. Harder to meet in an eLearning environment would be discerning readiness to learn, the learner's self-concept and orientation to learn. A trainer would need to take steps to discover and tease out these things prior to and in the beginning stages of the eLearning experience.

James Anderson III

Posted on 1/22/15 4:41:35 PM Permalink

Use of eLearning:

I use eLearning often in my community college classrooms, and workplace learning projects in a "flipped" capacity. I blend my activities, where I give background and rote information via eLearning, and allows follow-up classroom sessions to be more hands on and interactive, rather than trying to build the foundation.

eLearning and adult learning theory:

I am a firm believe that learners self-concept and motivation to learn are critical for successful participation in eLearning. eLearning requires a lot of discipline... if a learner is not highly self-directed, they will not perform will in an eLearning or blended environment. I think you see this demonstrated by high dropout rates in MOOCs, and poor online course completion rates in colleges and universities.

PIERRE MICHEL

Posted on 1/22/15 1:50:54 PM Permalink

My interest in eLearning as a ‘life time learner’ is that it offers me the opportunity to learn something new at my convenience. There are no time constraints and after having appraised some of the learners profile on the Adobe site- I think we can share and accommodate each other’s strengths and weakness.

Engagement, I believe will meet the needs of any learner. I do smart board and inquiry workshop presently at my school and I try to get the teaching staff engaged as it will get them thinking about the content from different perspectives. Some will share different ways they do things and others have questions about how to get moving on the topic.


Matthew Miller

Posted on 1/22/15 12:12:54 PM Permalink

Like Sue, I have been interested in e-learning for quite a while. I studied "distance education" during my Masters, in 2000. Since then I have taken many e-learning courses, both synchronous and self-paced. I have created and delivered many e-learning courses, in a variety of formats, including newsletters, video broadcasts, screencasting, and LMSs like Moodle. Today, I'm focused on creating learning as game (gamification, only more so) for my Introduction to Programming course. I'm also working with faculty here on creating flipped learning courses in the Middle school, and creating e-learning elements for High School courses.

I have no experience with Captivate and very little with Connect (mostly as a conference participant or presenter), so I am really looking forward to learning more about those, especially how I can help my faculty incorporate their use into their plans. Adobe Captivate, in particular, seems highly useful for our situation, both mine in particular and several of the faculty here. I currently use ScreenFlow, but because we have a school license for Adobe Captivate will be a better choice for most of them.

As I mentioned in response to Jeredene's post, the one of Knowle's assumptions that I really struggle with in an e-learning format is the use and acknowledgement of the particpant's life experience. Until I started reading others' posts here, I had pretty much given up hope of being able to address that; I'm eagerly looking for suggestions. The other major area I'm working on, one major focus of the game environment, is providing a combination of task/problem centered instruction with self-direction (in a highly motivating environment, both extrinsic and intrinsic). A well-built game, in my current experience, provides a wealth of opportunity to provide self-directed learning through problems and tasks, but boy howdy does it take a lot of work! Once it's built the benefits pay off in allowing me to spend time as a coach rather than a presenter, though, and the participants feel it is quite valuable.

Sue Howlett

Posted on 1/22/15 1:20:36 PM Permalink

Hi Mathew , flipped learning is one area we are just working with in our "Teach-Meet" sessions. I would like to know more about gamification and how it might work for me, I hope you share how you are getting on.

'm really a big fan of Captivate it looks like a really cool way to build a course and get people engaged.

Matthew Miller

Posted on 1/22/15 3:44:49 PM Permalink

I'm writing up a description of my gamification efforts right now. There's a lot to talk about, so it'll likely be a while before I can get it posted, but it's definitely coming! I'm also conducing action research this year on the course and will be writing that up, probably over the summer. If you have specific questions, maybe we could organize a google hangout or other connection so anyone else who is interested could join in and we could all chat about it.

Sue Howlett

Posted on 1/22/15 4:11:35 PM Permalink

Can't find the thread re providing elearning content, yes let's chat about it

Viviani Barrera

Posted on 1/22/15 11:28:25 AM Permalink

I am very interested in eLearning but my experience with that was very limited. I worked with Moodle when I was teaching Adobe InDesign at Vancouver Community College, but I didn't have the opportunity to use it a lot. I also took a presencial course where the instructors use to record their classes with a program called Camtasia, so the students could watch their classes again later, which was great. Some of the teachers also posted edited videos online in youtube.
I think it is possible to meet the needs of the adult learner in a eLearning environment, but I think the course has to be very well developed. Motivating adults is not an easy task and I think online courses need to be very dynamic. I think that extrinsic motivators is easily met in an eLearning environment but maybe adapting the course to each individual life experience is more difficult to meet.

I am really interested in Instructional Design, but I need to be guided, as I've already tried to self direct myself into this field without sucess. I would appreciate if anyone here has a link or a book to recommend me.

Matthew Miller

Posted on 1/22/15 3:35:20 PM Permalink

Regarding motivation, the best book I've read on the subject is Dan Pink's Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us. I also like David Price's Open: How we'll work, live and learn in the future, although it's less directly related.

Regarding Instructional Design, I know of three good textbooks:

  • Foundations of Educational Technology is a good introduction to the field; a survey level book. It includes perspectives on the field, theoretical bases, and many actual examples.
  • e-Learning and the Science of Instruction is more academic and is quite thorough with up-to-date research (as of publication date in 2008). As you might expect from the title, it's narrowly focused on e-Learning, but as much as a book can be, I feel this is a good link between the theory/research and practice.
  • Real World Instructional Design, while quite expensive, is a wealth of very practical material, especially for those in the training and PD side, though there is plenty for teachers, too.

But honestly, the best professional development I've had related to instructional design is twofold: a) I interact with other designers and integrater in forums here at EdEx and elsewhere; b) I put as much of my material online as possible and invite comment by others. I think I've learned as much in two years of this process as in my prior 20 years (including during my masters).

Viviani Barrera

Posted on 1/29/15 7:30:44 PM Permalink

Thanks Matthew!

Graeme Nelson

Posted on 1/22/15 8:04:22 PM Permalink

Here are a few other very practical books worth looking at Viviani:

  • Essentials of Online Course Design: A Standards-Based Guide
    Vai, M., Sosulski, K.
  • Essentials of Blended Teaching: A Standards-Based Guide (Essentials of Online Learning)
    Stein, J., Graham, C. R.
  • Making Online Teaching Accessible: Inclusive Course Design for Students with Disabilities (Jossey-Bass Guides to Online Teaching and Learning)
    Coombs, N.
  • Synchronous Trainer's Survival Guide: Facilitating Successful Live and Online Courses, Meetings, and Events
    Hofmann, J.
  • Engaging the Online Learner: Activities and Resources for Creative Instruction (Jossey-Bass Guides to Online Teaching and Learning)
    Conrad, R., Donaldson, J.A.

  • Continuing to Engage the Online Learner (Jossey-Bass Guides to Online Teaching and Learning)
    Conrad, R., Donaldson, J.A.

Viviani Barrera

Posted on 1/29/15 7:31:26 PM Permalink

Thanks Graeme!

Jeredene Mayfield

Posted on 1/21/15 10:47:51 PM Permalink

I have facilitated many eLearning courses over the past 10 years. I hope to use Adobe products to enhance my delivery. All of the Knowles assumptions can be met by a thoughtful facilitator.

Andrea Cebula

Posted on 1/21/15 10:55:44 PM Permalink

What type of courses, Jeredene? Who is in your audience typically? What eLearning tools and LMS do you use?

Matthew Miller

Posted on 1/22/15 12:01:23 PM Permalink

Jeredene, I have had a difficult time framing e-learning that I feel does a decent job acknowledging and making use of the "lifetime of experience" assumption Knowles makes. Do you have experience or suggestions around this one?

Gail Dunn

Posted on 1/21/15 7:59:10 PM Permalink

I have taken a number of eLearning courses and liked the flexibility it gives me. I think in today's very busy world we will see more and more eLearning opportunities for just about everything. I have already flipped my own classroom and would like to move into an online instructor role. I am currently developing some eLearning PD courses for my campus.

I think it is possible to meet the needs of learners in an eLearning platform. If a course planner is thoughtful of different levels of experience and needs, assignments can be tailored to give options to meet the various abilities of the learners.

Andrea Cebula

Posted on 1/21/15 9:57:21 PM Permalink

Hi Gail, where do you work? What tools are you using to develop your course? Are you using your school's learning management system?

Sue Howlett

Posted on 1/21/15 12:55:03 PM Permalink

I have many years experience in e-learning, at the beginning as what would be called an instructional designer today, working with academic colleagues to create their learning content into a digital format. Based on that knowledge, I then began to apply that skill to my own training sessions. I use ScreenCasts to record a procedure or software demonstration. Keynote or PowerPoint and Prezzie for presentations. Write learning content in the form of a workbook and save to PDF, if its to be a series of workshops, people have the option to print or note. Record Audio FAQ sessions and a short radio program for my department, we use it as a communication tool. Create video's as part of the session for the learners to refer to after they have attended the workshop. I am now learning Captivate to create several on-line courses for my specialist subject areas.

On-line learning seems to be one way traffic, i.e. you create the course, give the learners all the content and other materials they need and you don't really know if they have learned anything until they complete their assignments. Unless they give you feedback you don't know if you ave aimed it at the right level. I will certainly use the six assumptions to help me create a more engaged and interactive course, upon reflection, perhaps I should ask more questions (wherever possible ) to understand from the learners perspective what they want to get out of the session, and produce something more aligned to their world.

If its a new subject for them, I think you go back to a basic level, so that everybody starts at the same place whatever they think they might know, and build week upon week. As I am about to start a large project, it has certainly given me a different way of thinking about why I am creating and who the project is for. Its going to be a challenge but its a good base to start from.


Andrea Cebula

Posted on 1/21/15 10:03:17 PM Permalink

Wow, Sue, you have so much experience and a wealth of knowledge to share! We are fortunate to have you in the course. What is your favorite LMS? Have you used Presenter at all for screen captures? What do you use to record your audio?

I agree that online learning can largely a one way street, due to the technology and often the size of the courses. In the weeks to come, we will dive more deeply into ways that we can ensure that we strive to meet the needs of the adult learner. I look forward to connecting with you soon to discuss eLearning further!

Sue Howlett

Posted on 1/22/15 1:53:08 PM Permalink

Very kind of you to say so. I use Sony PCM- m10 recorder for audio, I edit in Audacity and Garargeband. I use Final cut pro, and GoPop for video editing. Screenflow and Camtasiea for screen casting.

Which is why I am extied by Captivate , so many things to use it for, looking forward to the rest of the course.

Liz M

Posted on 1/20/15 10:51:29 PM Permalink

Currently in the process of creating elearning modules using Adobe Captivate and Adobe Connect deployment. The course they will be deployed with also has some face to face time, so it has been an interesting process deciding what will go into these elearning sessions to ensue they are worthwhile and best utilizing the time/technology etc.

Andrea Cebula

Posted on 1/21/15 10:05:20 PM Permalink

Hi Liz, are you already familiar with Captivate and Connect or are you learning as you go? How long are your Captivate modules? What learning management system do you use?

Lori Valasek

Posted on 1/20/15 10:17:51 PM Permalink

I will be using as many I can in the course that I am going to be putting together. and its going to be a simple course but I want to be able to be the best I can be getting the information to them in a fun but learnable way.

it seems so simple to do it but im sure its going to be harder than it looks. again its like how would I want to be taught is the way I want to teach and it hits all 6 of them.

Andrea Cebula

Posted on 1/21/15 10:08:16 PM Permalink

Hi Lori, who is in your audience? Do you have any experience with Captivate and Presenter? I agree that online learning looks so simple to design, but it is so not! In the upcoming weeks we will revisit the topic of addressing the needs of the adult learner in an eLearning platform. Let me know if yo have any specific questions.

Ford North

Posted on 1/20/15 3:47:45 PM Permalink

I am putting an online education together.

I enjoy doing online courses like this. I like that I can always be learning about what I want or need to learn. I appreciate the simplicity and access of it. I like the self paced study.

I look forward to offering my information in this manner to the world.

Andrea Cebula

Posted on 1/21/15 10:09:16 PM Permalink

Hi Ford, who is in your audience? How long is your course? What eLearning tools do you have access to?

Rachel Haselby

Posted on 1/20/15 1:33:04 PM Permalink

I have taken online courses; however, I’ve never had the opportunity (or nerve) to use it to deliver pd. I have helped teachers implement a flipped classroom, but I’m not sure that qualifies. I do think it’s possible and may even be easier to implement these best practices into eLearning. Because eLearning is by its very nature somewhat self-directed, learners can take the time to apply the topic to their lives, and use their existing knowledge to help them do this.

Andrea Cebula

Posted on 1/21/15 10:12:05 PM Permalink

Hi Rachel, implementing a flipped classroom totally qualifies! Do you have access to eLearning tools to develop PD? You bring up a good point that eLearning meets the need of the adult learner in many ways, especially in that it is usually very self-directed. Let me know more about what you would like to accomplish through eLearning and how I can help.